BTW whats up with all the psychic stuff? So, yes, although the Evansdale girls were mere skeletons when found, LE believes they were posed. Please check out my YouTube channel, MsPsychic Sleuth. Please do not report this due to it discussing a rumor. We believe this because this is what we were told. People really seem to take him at face value and think that because he is older, hes not capable of committing such a crime. Incidentally, we now have a retired homicide detective working as part of our team. Delphi Murders - Bodys Posed - LifeUnited Neither one can possibly be BG. Oh, one more thing. Brad was a suspect for a while, and one of the detectives working on the case even stated off the record that he thought Brad did it. Investigators have explained that the details of the crime scene indicate a signature, which can help them identify the killer. I guess one thought about the cops searching for videos, and I dont know the specific wording but could it be they are looking for businesses or residences that have security cameras? She mentions how the search parties on the 13th had a hard time finding the girls because they didnt think the were looking for bodies but alive girls and she says additionally, also they were partially covered. What does that mean? - November 30, 2022 Delphi murders leaked texts revealed the evidence behind the brutal death of two teenage girls who went out to spend their day off but met a very tragic end. Stop. On February 13, 2017, Liberty German, age 14, and Abigail Williams, age 13, were hiking on the Delphi Historic Trail near the Monon High Bridge just east of Delphi in Carroll County, Indiana.. We think the girl knew she was pregnant. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I I heard the girls say repeatedly, Its Elementary Watson, and 2 plus 2 equals 4. Even after the girls were recovered, Mr. X stayed around through all of the media and police hubbub for the next eight hours, from 12:30 PM to 8:30 PM, so his truck was out at the crime scene for 26 full hours, with Mr X presumably with it the entire time. Delphi Murders Leaked Texts Revealed The Evidence Behind Death Yes, they did record audio of themselves torturing those girls. This has helped me a lot. Welcome to the site! Kline is said to have arranged to meet with Libby on the Delphi High Bridge the day before she was murdered while walking along it. ? thats tough luck usually)I agree with him that it was probably Logan that gave the cops details on Kirts to get out of the clink The cops say the killer made a mistakeI bet it was probably something left behind in one of Logans barns or shacks. If others want to dig around and find out who he is, thats their business. But Garrett said he doesn't understand how it took so long for an arrest. Rumor is that Abbys was pink. If it's real, it's very sad, but it's likely people grasping at straws. It is currently unclear what the. Would love to join the private group. What would be Mr X reason for leaving them there? The sheriffs deputy did not work on the case. She still hasnt been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. The Hanish & Bowen case have revealed this for them (thus the new direction & young BG sketch & ditching of old BG sketch in 2019 a month after Hanish)I bet Hanish was catfished using that Anthony_Shots account toohe mustve been told or overheard info about the Delphi murders & therefore removedBowen removed for either the same thing or fact she knew the truth behind Hanish murder (b/c I definitely am not buying that Kirts is bisexual & choked him out during a weird sexcapade, gimme a break). Investigators believe the man is the killer. We believe that his truck got towed later on when his wife never showed up with the keys, that Mr. X searched Ron Logans land that evening with two other men, and that he left his truck sitting in that same spot for 18 hours until the next day when the bodies were found. Garrett said he doesn't understand why it took police so many years to match an unspent round from the crime scene to a gun owned by a man who lives in Delphi. So when LE said the younger sketch is the one who committed the crime, they were correct! Another document we have is another search warrant, this time for the Maxwell property. The rest are guardians. Mike Patty: Just stop, ok? He was charged with child molestation, and was linked to the Delphi murders because of his strong resemblance to the man in the Delphi video, and a preliminary police sketch investigators had circulated of the suspect. Number 5 was told to JM, an excellent local sleuth, and then to us by an Indiana detective who works in Narcotics based on crime scene photos he had seen. You came over here after sitting over of that hate Reddit, LibbyandAbby where youve been hating on me. What do you all think?" I see hot, humid conditions. But he also got wrapped up in collecting and apparently trading real deal child porn with little girls. The roommate also said he suspected Mr. X of the Evansdale Murders because during the time of the Evansdale Murders, Mr. X and the roommate were both over in Evansdale being put up in hotels for months while they worked on a plant there. If so, where and when? Investigators said the person behind the account posed as the model in order to groom underage girls and get them to send nude photos and their addresses and try to get them to meet. Investigators have been mostly mum on many case details but a redacted warrant provides a glimpse into information surrounding the murder scene, suspect, and victims. Police say they ruled Eldridge out as a suspect, and that he did not match an updated sketch of the suspect. And at the end, Carter says, He may even be in this room right now, (he was in fact) and then looks in the complete opposite direction of Mr. X. Because statistically, the chance that it is a crazy serial killer would be smaller. Dime a dozen. Bottom line is the quality of our sources has increased dramatically over time. The documents, filed in 2020 and heavily redacted, do not mention the murders of Libby and Abby and he has not been accused of involvement in their deaths. We believe him. The state has to prove it. Mr. Xs wife, his daughter, and Becky Patty are now putting out a story that Mr. X never lost his keys in the first place. They were town volunteers, right? Cops say teen murder victims were posed, killer took souvenirs Miller lived two hours from Delphi at the time of his arrest. The rumor that there was a spent cartridge at the scene is therefore confirmed. 43 sec is probably the time they have of the man on the girls phone recording. This implies that the girls were returned to the scene later. I 100% agree about Mr X, and I recently seen a pic of his stepson which I think looks similar to the YBG sketch. She was being potentially catfished by this person, who, of course, looked nothing like and was nothing like what he portrayed online.. BG is a 50 year old man and the three other men are younger, age 17-26. Mr. X also cuts up a lot of deer that he shoots for food. This means that they have at least one fired cartridge. One of his many interesting hobbies was abducting and raping young women. Well, guess what? If he is a poser, which is the worst of the worst, and he has a transport company, that gives him carte blanche to move around in committing more crimes of this nature in different parts of the country as he travels. Im not sure how he got there, if he drove a car, or if so, where he parked it. I see you may have particular interest in the Evansdale case due to proximity. The killer contacted Libby on social media using the "catfish" of a young man aged 19. Instead they were penetrated with inanimate objects, which, last time I checked, do not cause pregnancy. Bottle of toilet bowl cleaner in left pocket.*. Neither he nor his father have been arrested over the Delphi Bridge killings, which police continue to investigate. Im really worried about people bothering or harming this guy and his family. Delphi murders: Killer moved, staged bodies and may have taken souvenir Of course we don't know how the bodies were found and if they were posed or staged, we only know that the crime scene was unbelievable disturbing and horrible. I do not feel comfortable using his initials or certainly his name. Delphi murders: Killer staged bodies and may have taken souvenir, new documents reveal Shocking new details have come to light about the murders of best friends Libby German, 14, and Abby. At the very least he could have made misleading statements. This Feb. 13, 2017, file photo released by the Indiana State Police shows a man walking along the trail system in Delphi, Ind., authorities say is the suspect in the killings of two teenage girls. Lawyered up, not talking. At this point, they dont even have enough for an arrest. Of course Ron Logan didnt do it. San Francisco's ultra-luxurious Four Seasons Residences sells just 13 of its 146 apartments, as street crime and drug abuse are blamed for deterring prospective buyers including Steph and Ayesha Curry, Top female cop is SUSPENDED without pay for 120 days by New Orleans' Police Department after she was 'caught filing timesheets while doing private security work'. I tend to agree. Not even Becky Patty and she was probably more devastated than anyone and probably still is. Because of the nature of the victims wounds, it is nearly certain the perpetrator of the crime would have gotten blood on his person/clothing.. Heavily redacted court documents say that state police and the FBI encountered Kline in 2017 while conducting a search warrant in Peru, Indiana. What makes even less sense to me are some of the things that they have said or at least have not challenged as not being factual. Any info you can get us on this will be much appreciated! An asterisk means the information is proven via LE information leaked to us. Video from one of the victim's phones shows a man on the trail wearing dark jacket and jeans. It is an open case so anything else you want to know look and maybe you will find. People may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. He stopped for gas and cigarettes. Thats a GoPro on BGs waist and he filmed his crime. I would like to email this , as it is not particularly relevant to the comments on this page. No longer in state. So every time a kid gets killed in a sexual murder, LE goes looking for photos and videos of the murder because obviously everyone who kills a kid takes pics of it and videotapes it. The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? Missing for 2 years at the age of 5 and reported 2 years later out of Manchester, NH. Everything We Know About The Unsolved Delphi Murders - Grunge.com People are saying this is a coincidence, but apparently LE does not believe it is coincidental. Killer May Have 'Moved and Staged' Delphi Murder Victims' Bodies and Done Something to 'Memorialize the Crime Scene': Warrants. July 22, 2017 truthtellersweb. Hi folks. FSG along with others present at the bridge have been investigated as possible lookouts for BG. Allen told investigators on Oct. 13, 2022, that he wore jeans and a blue or black Carhartt jacket that day, according to the probable cause affidavit. However, I do not know how to contact you Sir. No one has to believe me when I say LE has a main suspect, but there are number of suspects that ought to be put to rest. Was present when the Evansdale Murders occurred. Press J to jump to the feed. The rumor is that his alibi is a Delphi police officer, Nate Allen, who committed suicide in December. He's charged with two counts of murder and has entered a not guilty plea. Photo: Courtesy Mike and Becky Patty. Via LE Source A, Mr. X s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. Thats what we want to talk to him about when our investigators go out there again. Photo by LIBBY GERMAN / FACEBOOK It is certainly an interesting question, is it not? No. Good question and we have no answer to it. He does not work there at the moment. Im not sure if pregnancy can be confirmed via autopsy before 6 weeks. Lets hope they find some peace. He hunted deer on RLs land all the time. This what first aroused LE suspicions of Mr. X. Your critiques are not even making sense. How about never? Im sure the guy does look at posts and stuff which is creepy as all hell. The girls' bloodied bodies were found about a half mile from the bridge. FSG has been someone that I cannot let go of either. Delphi Murders Update April 13, 2021: Stunning Rumors about the Murders But after continuing to receive these pings and after it being 5 years, I went back and decided to post as these images have since plagued me. Thing is, we cant figure out if it is a crumpled piece of paper, dried leaves, a stuffed toy, or a doll. Did he not see BG? You dont have to join. Unsolved Murders Archives - TRUECRIMEGUY.COM She has been featured in Psychic Investigators, Paranormal Witness, and interviewed by Nancy Grace! 242? Delphi Murders: Who Is Kegan Kline, Man Arrested During - Peoplemag If the killer had that weird and I would assume rare fetish with the sticks, branches and stakes, maybe the local sex workers may know exactly who it is? No, they are obviously looking for photos and videos that the killer took as part of this crime. There is a difference between a scene that is staged and a scene that is posed, McCollum said. Indiana State Police's analysis of Allen's gun "determined the unspent round located within two feet" of one of the victims "had been cycled through Richard M. Allen's Sig Sauer Model P226," the probable cause affidavit said. Investigators also believed photographs or videos were likely shot of the grotesque set-up to 'memorialize' the crime scene. Detectives continue to ask anyone who may have had contact with the screen name anthony_shots to contact law enforcement at abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.comor 765-822-3535. By that I mean that he probably has offended many times but being transient affords one the luxury of not getting caught. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. So Mr. X did not ask him to search for his keys, he was officially asking to search for the girls according to ol Ronny boy. Because of the number of people saying this rumor is true, it goes into the likely category. Another user is talking about them also. LE would also be interested in anyone who may have helped Mr. X after the crime, perhaps burning evidence or whatever. We obtained this document via a public records request. While it's unclear if police did go to gun stores, Garrett think it's unlikely because there was no mention of a gun in the case until the probable cause document was released Tuesday. Recently moved to a small city nearby, possibly due to the heat of being a suspect in the crime. How do I do this? Calling off the search the night the girls went missing was a really, really bad choice. I read 1 of them is still in grief counseling for it- so im pretty sure she doesnt wanna talk about it. Dad is BG and KAK is waiting under the bridge. Despite a lack of evidence, investigators have not given up hope that they have caught the suspect. 43 seconds of audio. That makes no sense anyways, kill 2 little girls because of a "grudge",theoretically speaking. I cant see where this is! Investigators said in the probable cause affidavit that they believe Allen is the man seen on the video. The fact that the mere mention of FSG as anything more than a helpful old man out for a daily stroll is met with such hostility well, that raises all sorts of red flags with me even if the vitriol is coming from true crime enthusiasts on Reddit. Two people appear to be conflated here in your article as Mr. X. Daniel Nations, a registered Indiana sex-offender, was arrested in Colorado in September 2017 after threatening hikers with a hatchet. R/DelphiMurders is completely useless due to their no rumors or speculation rules, which means that you can only discuss what is proven about the case, which after four years, is just about nothing. Exactly how the girls died remains unknown to the public, and the state their bodies were discovered in also remains shrouded in mystery. It is interesting that they are looking for precisely 43 seconds of audio. How did BG get across that knee-high stream in the middle of winter without nearly getting hypothermia and needing a change of clothes? Been following your blog from the start, and this is so close to what I have been feeling for a while now. A book has been published accusing this man of this crime. You do a great job! I dont see a motive for Mr. X either, and he did live right there. Yes, this man is the prime suspect at the moment, but that doesnt mean a whole lot. Admitting his culpability only after lying to law enforcement, whom he first told that the girl shot herself while cleaning her weapon. According to Garrett, it's unlikely Allen would be bloody if a gun was the only murder weapon, unless Allen handled the bodies in some manner. Anything that shows they crossed the creek that evening. If I were on the jury, the only thing I would care about was whether the state had proved that Mr. X committed this crime. Considering I often cannot view website news articles because of data protection laws? There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girls head. Why would the police lie about where they found them tho that doesnt make sense. I thought there was more to this blog. A transcript of what they thought was being said was agreed on by this group. On Feb. 13, 2017, 13-year-old Abigail "Abby" Williams and 14-year-old Liberty "Libby" German went to the Monon High Bridge in their home town of Delphi, Ind., while off from school for an unused snow day. I tend to think that it goes deeper than only Mr. X being involved though. I noticed your nice comment on my YouTube page, thank you so much for your reply! Its not free though. Best friends Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13, lost a lot of blood during their murders with an unspecified weapon and were not killed in the same location where their bodies were discovered close to a trail where they had set off on a fun day out together just hours earlier. Ive been angry at LE today regarding this case. I am not sure. Highly functioning drunk; its the only way he can appear normal. He was arrested on charges of child sexual abuse images and child exploitation tied to the account and admitted to grooming underage girls online. Chilling photo uploaded to Facebook a year after Delphi murders shows arrested man's daughter, 28, pose in SAME spot where victims took final snaps . Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby said the information in the probable cause affidavit is "self-explanatory" and declined to comment further. Hence, formally, everything Leaker said has gone into unconfirmed rumors other than the things we were able to confirm from other probative sources. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ, Protected: Post to Discuss All of the Various POIs and Theories in the Delphi Murders from the Crime to the Present, Protected to Avoid Libel and Character Assassination Part 10, Alt Left: This Is Almost Certainly the Single Most Inexplicable Series of Geopolitical Blunders in Recorded History, Alt Left: Add Iran to That Sino-Russian Alliance While You Are at It, NATO Helped the Ukrainians Fire All Those Drones at Russia, Including all the Way to Moscow, The Conquest of Germany and Japan Never Ended, The Conquest and Destruction of Russia Project Goes Way Back to Post World War 2, The Jewish Conspiracy To Subject Humankind. They are black and white and do mention some aspects of how they died. I never knew what evidence anyone had against this guy except, He kills chicks! The Indiana State Police on Friday made progress in the 2017 cold case, commonly known as the Delphi murders. The stories vary from one of the girls still alive crying for help while the other lays dead next to her, the killer moving the bodies into disturbing poses or the killer violating one of the girls who was still alive and the body of the first girl that was killed. Indiana State Police said in February they knew who killed the girls, but that they had insufficient evidence to make an arrest. Yes, I know. I find it notable that not much has been said about the danger to others, I think it has been said that it could not be excluded, but I have not seen any emphatic warnings. He may well have had a deer blind on the Mears property. The suspect has since moved back to North Carolina, and young women have begun to disappear from the trails there now. No, he didnt kill his own granddaughter. Frequently hunted deer on Rons land. Allen, a 50-year-old Delphi man, was arrested last month. Here's the Update in His Case. The girls hand was wrapped around the knife to make it appear that she was stabbing herself. Since Allen's arrest, it was also revealed that his home was less than two miles from the Delphi train bridge where Williams and German were last seen alive. There is evidence that may have worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport in 2011-2012. The photo shows Brittany Zapanta, 28 - the daughter of Richard Allen, 50, on the Manon high bridge in the woods outside Delphi, Indiana. But they're about as good as they look here. *The cops refer to cases of scumbag on scumbag shootings as No humans involved or public service killings. Not say that innocent people are killed and hurt in these cases and in some cases the target themselves is completely innocent. For the first time, the warrant reveals that they were killed by some type of weapon but the word is redacted in the document. They go up to the knee and are designed to be waterproof. They were folded on her chest. We also dont know the name of the hotel or motel that they stayed in. New details in Delphi murder of Abby Williams and Libby German - Fox 59 Would be interesting to know if Garett Kirts was on Ron Logans property that day. Hes bored and has nothing to do, so we recruited him to sleuth for us. For information on these documents, see the special section below where their nature and provenance is explained. He also allegedly asked his cousin to back up his story before the girls bodies had been found.
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