I do remember the bad fires in the 1990s in Florida and Colorado (I was in Glenwood Springs at a week-long seminar only a week after the Storm King Mountain aka South Canyon fire). Lose their jobs over this? We listened to local TV news at home which reported voluntary evacuations for Mynatt Park after fire was reported in the Twin Creeks area. We really need to stop being so quick to cut of the heads of people doing their jobs and instead insist that they learn from and make changes for the better. People died and lost so much and that is absolutely tragic! Thats why I refused to use a local contractor. I cannot count how many times my wife or I would find a fire smoldering typically from someone who flipped a lit cigarette and the brush when they were finished. Hit it with all you have the Moment it breaks out.. An expert, a hero or success is the one who takes a vulnerable risk at making a decision and by grace the outcome is positive, by contrast is the person who makes similar vulnerable risk in decision-making and by grace the outcome is negative. Those are low numbers for the southeastern United States. from Gburg. Most of those people got out of the pre-evac zone just to be safe and watch the fire at a distance. Because we were heading home to Ohio early Tuesday morning, we packed our suitcases and put them in the car. This fire burned for almost a week, before it exploded into Gatlinburg. The more we let our selves be vulnerable and courageous in the face of tough situations, the more chance that we have that we will fall, and we will; we all will at some point if we take that risk to be brave and courageous. The forecasts from the 24th through the 26th did not predict the extreme weather that began Monday, November 28. It is unfortunate that sometimes a few seek to blame someone so quickly that they miss the opportunity to really get to the root of the causes for those issues in the first place. OnMonday, December 5, the Incident Management Team (IMT) on the Chimney Tops 2 Fire that burned from Great Smoky Mountains National Park (GRSM) into the Gatlinburg area reported that it has caused the deaths of 14people. I can feel for the service providers and the devastated fire victims. Good point, Ms. Horton. Also important is accountability, so is teaching, learning and experience, so is action, so is on and on. Sevier County remains Smokies Strong 5 years after wildfires - WBIR.com Gatlinburg businesses look to rebuild after massive fire Thank you for the timeline and the opportunity for comments. View all posts by Bill Gabbert. Of course, the city of When enough folks dont take a vulnerable interest in situations and root out the evidence and real root causes to a situation, that is how cover-ups and lies live on, and the wrong people or wrong causes go unrooted. Steve Brueck of DaculaWeather.com suppied us with Local Storm Report Informationfrom the National Weather Service that includes wind gust speeds in the general area. The GRSM person that requested the Spot wrote: Concerned about ridgetop winds with the coming front. The winds were blowing from the Chimneys more down the mountain than up toward LeConte. The terrain was steep, a vertical distance of 1,300 feet from the bottom of the drainages to the top of the hill. With the wildfires scattered across western N.C., we are lucky that, given parallel conditions of the wildfires that swept down the Chimney Tops into Gatlinburg ..i.e. It just so happens that at this time hundreds of fires were subsequently being started all around the south! What is unconstitutional here is that if this first fire of the 14th is under investigation, then certain parties have committed obstruction of justice. I think wildland fire managers should be commended that this fire did not result in a tragic firefighter incident like Yarnell Hills. Then the wind comes!!! After action reports with ample opportunity for community input led to better pre-fire management and intra-agency coordination of resources. I found this blog and am so grateful to have an opportunity to reply and also to become informed from experienced, caring people of service in the firefighting effort. As they are minors, nothing else is known other than the Feds said the State could prosecute. We were still asleep when it happened. GSMNP Facebook has pulled comments, photos, and replies as well in regard to the 14th fire. Are they learning how to use it? https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1477959465566642&id=100000578092120. I know for a fact that all humans are not as tuned into Nature as others. Massive Wildfire Engulfs Tennessee Resort Towns, Kills 3 Though Im missing the boat a little here, my questioning is still legitimate being that any managed ignited fire can still get out of control adding to an existing wildfire or creating one. And I dont write about that many of them. Its hard to see. I later learned that Sevier County pays for an emergency notification system called Code Red Alert. Though it will never be heard in our courts today, dont think the Almighty isnt going to bring it to Light; for human death was involved and the facts were dodged plan and simple. They didnt for one reason in my humble opinion: $$$ For the most current information about the Chimney Tops 2 Fire at Gatlinburg, see our articles tagged Chimney 2 Fire. Not everything that happened with the fires had a dotted line to those two teens. Fire kills 1, destroys businesses in downtown Gatlinburg, Tenn May all the people find peace and forgiveness in the midst of this storm. When I got home our dog was sneezing repeatably so I brought her in. My family lives 15 mi. How many have died in the gatlinburg forest fire? - JacAnswers Tunica, MS, from our area near Kansas City, to arrive late evening, that day, in Tunica. It would be interesting to understanding the impact of excessive fuel from dead hemlocks, killed by hemlock wooly adelgid (together with the lack of moisture typically found under a mature, live, shady hemlock canopy, even with the extreme drought conditions) had on this fire. These so called means of helping people out is a lie. Instead simply took pictures on their phone, 3. But until the review of the fire is complete and the report is published, I would be careful with a statement like this: The Chimney Tops fire was a wildfire being monitored given limited resources initially because of the many other ongoing fires in the region to which fire-fighting resources were committed. I knew him when he was at Indiana Dunes National Lake Shore. The 2016 Great Smoky Mountains wildfires, also known as the Gatlinburg wildfires, [1] were a complex of wildfires which began in late November 2016. Who allowed this to happen? strong south, southwest winds, extreme drought, low humidity..ect.., that something similar didnt happen here. Firefighters from Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge responded. Difficult access to safely fight fire, lack of pre-blow up fire management, and extreme drought capped off by an exceptional weather event led to the July 1st, 1998 Farmton firestorm that burned through the rural community where I lived in east central Florida. I have to assume that the city of Gatlinburg felt that since my road was county property that I was on my own. Birmingham City have had to close their training ground after a fire caused damage on Friday morning. Hemlocks were mentioned in a number of daily updates on Inciweb because they are basically standing roman candles thanks to the spiral of limbs. Why? because poor, inadequate human decision making allowing basic fire physics, fire chemistry and TIME to align resulting in avoidable death and destruction! Officials identified Robert A. Hejny, 63, who was found at Traveler's Motel in Gatlinburg. The individual was identified as Joe Martin Bates, 54, according to the Sevier County Medical Examiners office. The governors promised investigation has yet to appear (if it ever will), but the National Parks investigation is proceeding and no locals are on that team. We need a growing pool of resources who have gained knowledge and wisdom hat can be applied to future events, not to lessen the pool by throwing out those who failed but are not a failure. Especially our local emergency workers and the Park Service. Google and Bing maps give a pretty good idea of the expanse of dead hemlocks. I agree with the earlier post that if this fire had been in Southern California or other areas subject to devastating fire if it would have been managed differently. Just wondering was it God who drastically cut the federal budgets for NPS, Wildland firefighters and other resources or was that Congress? I remember a news conference A day or so later where that fire chief of the Gatlinburg stated that they knew on Sunday that it was predicted the fire would hit Gatlinburg proper by 11 AM on Tuesday morning. Almost every creek drainage in GSMNP has stands of dead hemlocks (though some areas near roads had some hemlocks treated regularly to prevent adelgid infestation). If that was the case, then they had to be fully aware that the fire was going to come down the mountain and burn not only NPS structures, but Gatlinburg structures as well? We are facing some very large problems around our globe and in our own home communities, that will require some out of the box thinking and collaboration, some tough questions, and a lot of personal accountability review and growth. Well I can say that if TEMA announced right now and emergency message to my cell phone in the east TN mountains I would never get a thing. Very well said Tommy. I guess they must think when you have to go up there to handle this mess they caused that you dont need lodging, food or gas to get there. What caused the Gatlinburg wildfire? - al.com What the fire victims need is non-biased experts to analyze the BACKFIRES that the NPS claims they ignited to protect NPS structures. Not sure on how the Hemlock Wooly Adelgid infects our truly awesome and beautiful Hemlocks, but I do know that the Balsam Wooly Adelgid, the non-native insect that has helped to lay waste to the equally magnificent Fraser Fir forests such as found on the highest peaks Clingmans Dome, Mt. When the rain started again at 8 a.m. the relative humidity rose into the 90s. Not because I am a teller of fortune. Yes a lot is somewhat predictable, just as this fire, but not every aspect is, there are too many variables in the real world. How far from the Chimney Tops, as the crow flies, were these pictures taken? Compare the events to their fire management manual and contradictions are present. One only has to imagine a single downed power line starting a structure fire at the same time the wildfire was approaching to understand how the great loss of property and life actually happened. I had concerns about traffic once we got down there. They were in their driveway with a water hose. When the Chimney Tops 2 Fire burned into Gatlinburg on November 28, 2016 and destroyed thosestructures it was drivenprimarily by weather specifically, very strong winds. The facts are clear that this was not the appropriate action taking during the initial stages of the Chimney Top 2 wildfire.
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