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And if youre doing that [shooting 158 grain bullets at 1200 fps muzzle velocity] with a snub.let me know I wanna watch you shoot em. i had the same issues you did when i was trying to load for my DR revolver 14-3. to light of power had a soft recoil but ungodly bad accuracy. My M60 came w/ factory banana grips- open back, long enough for pinkie rest but too small in girth behind the trigger guard. If I get to see him shoot those loads, it would be worth the price of a new keyboard! 38 Special, all bullet weights Bullet Powder Weight Powder Velocity OAL Primer Source 110gr JHP! An early Les Baer .45 knotted a group of the lead SWCs into a tight 1.3-inch group, while an M&P .45 did 1.25 inches. Im not recommending that you carry the Bullseye load, but dont feel as if you are going to tactical purgatory for enjoying this load, either. with #2 Lyman duplicate. 3 1/2" average not included flyers which seem to happen on every group test. That blunt-ended bullet cut a clean hole all the way through whatever its modest velocity allowed it to penetrate. You may end up with one "not" clearing the barrel. The Model 19 is fine with .38s but mildly uncomfortable with .357s. All right are Reserved Reload Ammo, Reloading The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), hi=849 lo=728 ES=122 (powder up and down), hi=821 lo=684 ES=137 (powder up and down), hi=815 lo=637 ES=178 (powder in normal positions), hi=714 lo=549 ES=165 (powder up and down), hi=758 lo=693 ES=65 (powder up and down)(DO NOT USE LESS), Hi=886, Lo=861, ES=25 (This is a Carolina Cast bullet SWC-great cowboy load), hi=859 lo=743 ES=116 *(my personal medium load), hi=875 lo=685 ES=190.2(powder up and down), hi=710 lo=497 ES=213 (powder up and down), hi=791 lo=625 ES=166 (Powder up and down), hi=785 lo=670 ES=115 (powder up and down), hi=801, low=766 ES=35.32 in Contender 14 bbl. One cool load Im working on is two pellets of 000 Buck.. A chameleon depending on your loads and the barrel length or action its fired from. Your link has been automatically embedded. I have tested both brass and nickel-plated cases using mild loadings and have not yet worn out a case. Winchester's website has data for W231 and a 125 gr LRNFP, but not plated. 5 are good choices. Handload: 158 grain round nose lead /3.8 grains Bullseye MV 775 fps ME 210 ft./lbs. I find the Pachmayr Compac grips on my 640 reduce the slap of full-boat .357 to less than that on my 3 M65 (w/ wood Altamont grips) or my 4 686 (Pachmayr Gripper Professional grips.) Two years into my second century a Colt MK IV Series 80 LTWT Commander 45 ACP still delivers the big medicine, but I have become enthralled with a new wheel gun- a Charter Arms Professional 32 H&R Magnum. The load you use will be up to your gun. True enough that it doesnt make power factor for Custom Defensive Pistol in IDPA or major in USPSA competition. Unsurpassed for .45 ACP target loads. The range (understandably) insisted you shoot their ammunition and the mildest they had was 158 grain LRN standard pressure. ( customer reviews) $ 10.69 - $ 246.00. http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/Powder.aspx?powderid=1, I also have the Berry's 125gr plated flat point bullet and I am trying to find a min and max load with unique powder. I bought a Ruger Alaskan in 454 Casull last year ahead of a hunt up in Wyoming. The Internet Pedant Swaged bullets do not have the hardness of poured (cast) lead. However recoil will be the limiting factor especially for the short line. Data will be standard "book" .38 Special data and I'll not attempt to "hotrod" the loads. The least is usually supplied as a large cylindrical billet weighing several hundred pounds. Rules say (e) Ammunition- Any safe .38 caliber ammunition using the 158 grain round nose or Semi-Wadcutter bullet only. And I still think a 158 at 600 beats hell out of a 22 magnum of any stripe. Magtech Sport Shooting, 38 Special, 125 Grain, Full Metal Jacket, Flat, 50 Round Box 38Q I have tried several different grips before finding the one that worked for me. The majority of my shooting with .38 has taken place with soft lead bullets. So you only hang onto the primer boxes loosely? As for the load ya the 158gr will probably take a little more, but your gun will tell you how much more.. I can shoot this load at speeds I cant normally reach with .45. I may have to rethink my plan. Is it considered safe to down load a cartridge that far under starting? : 1.475" Powder: 6.0 gr 6.9 gr Vel. I have done it with 38 special and 44 Mag, only to have a lead coated bore that looked like a rusty old drain pipe. Three in particular proved as good as their longstanding reputations would indicate. Ive probably picked up 300 cases of .38 the past few months and will continue to grab them as I see them, but whats nice is I can shoot more and put that money towards brass for .32 or .45 Colt, stuff that I never see at the range. )Lastly, the .38 SPL has a very large following and materials can be had readily. That's usually +P power level in .38 Special. One cool load Im working on is two pellets of 000 Buck. Hi. So I'd think you should find a decent load for short line at about 700 Fps and for the long line at about 800. Fast burning and consistent Economical and accurate Principal Purpose: Handgun loads Remarks: America's best known pistol powder. Load it using wadcutter specs, and seat the bullet flush, like a wadcutter. With the powders you listed I would try Bullseye, 231, and Unique in that order. A light target load, which tends to be very accurate, is about 3.1 grains, with a 158 grain bullet. I never really set my sights, in a manner of speaking, on the .38 cartridge like I did other rounds. Interestingly, I had pistols that would shoot one well and the other impressively, but have not yet had one pistol do magic with both. Just an FYI. A Forum dedicated to the sport of Bullseye shooting, Bullseye-L Forum::Ammunition Discussion, I'm looking for an accurate load using 125gr bullets. And, oh yeah. I just dont like practicing with it. 594/600 at the real distances of 24 rnds at 50 yds, 24 rnds at 25 yes, and 12 rnds at 7.5 yds. I started reloading 38 special as my first cartridge 8 years ago when I was 22, soooo.I have an old mans soul? 38 Special Loads for Bullseye by GerhardG Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:01 am Greetings, Looking for load suggestions for 38 special LSWC 158 grain SNS bullets, red coated based on the following powders; Bullseye, Unique, N310 and N320. Even slower powders may provide more consistent speeds and will be tested in the future (No. You need a .357 Magnum revolver if you want to try a 9MM cylinder. The .38 Special remains very popular for personal protection and Michelle Hamilton shares her thoughts on the top loads for concealed carry, like this 158-grain SWCHP FBI Load, based on her testing. Some medium fast powders would work with lighter weight bullets. 25 Auto 32 H&R Magnum 32 Auto 32 S&W Long 357 Magnum 38 Special 38 Special +P 38 Super Auto +P 380 Auto 40 S&W 44 Rem. If you can follow simple instructions, you can safely load this cartridge. These are light and easy to shoot. I once rented a Ruger LCR in .38 Special. SWC+GC, Boolit Grand Master. This produces about 550-650fps from a 1 7/8 barrel and feels like shooting a very powerful .22LR. (Same issue found with a 12 oz. I wish Id had a commercial version of this load in my ammo allocation when we were tasked with getting classes of students up to special operations standards with the issue custom 1911s. more weight than the similar size CA .44 Bulldog, were available, a lot more people would also like the .44 spl. I once had to quote the South Carolina Supreme Court when they had spelled it loathe., Regards, [.38 Special] is a very versatile and useful round. Disclaimer, I own or owned all the super calibers out there except the casull, theyre all fun and quite useful in some scenarios, but dont discount the old timer. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Hodgdon - 700-X: 125 gr. I love a nice, full-size .357 Magnum on the range because it is so easy to train new shooters on. I would add that the firearm mentioned, a Model 27 S&W revolver is a very durable gun, intended for the hotter loading of .357 Magnum. * I cannot begin to fathom shooting 20,000 rounds out of that revolver! I bought him as a gift a 642 with the black rubber grips, a few speedloaders w/big knob tops, and Hornady 125 grain FTX loads. Reloading for it came next and it has since become my favorite pistol cartridge. I keep thinking about trading it for a Model 27 or, maybe, one of the new Pythons for extra weight. Forget about it. My use of the term adequate means that Hodgdon has produced a workable result for the .38 Special, .38 Special +P, and .357 Magnum that may be used for 125 grain weight bullets having velocity limitations. And for 99% of the actual real world needs of a citizen for self defense it will work just fine. Shoots well in my K-38, 686, and a friend's K-38 at 50 yards in the Ransom rest. 01-10-2014, 06:49 PM #4. dverna. YouTube has plenty of reloading channels or the Reloaders Network webpage has more info as well. Rated 5.00 out of 5 based on 9 customer ratings. Its the kind of load that will make you fall in love with the 1911 all over again! No offense sir but those charges look low for Unique. Most DNR (Do Not Reduce) loads are well over 900-fps. When you could leave city limits and just about every dirt mound in sight, was a plinking range. We've got some great loads for 158 coated and plated semi wadcutters, and we're trying something new. I'm going to start with 3.8 grains. Load manuals often advise against downloading .38 Special jacketed loads to prevent squibs, especially the 110 and 125 grain bullets. At belly button range, very nasty load. VV N320, N330 and N340 are products of VihtaVouri Oy Company The load you use will be up to your gun. Hehe, back before Nick skimmed down. Also internet references 2009, Copyright. A Tyler T grip would have helped here, but is incompatible w/ factory grips. Accurate's No. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. You will find plenty of Red Dot loads there. I dont see much conversation on these specifics but I think Its all about the size of the explosion in the chamber. The bullets are seated flush in the case. My Reloading Manual for .38 Special has plenty of data for 125 gr JHP, and 125 gr JFP for Scot Powders/Vhitavuori, but nothing for Unique/W231/Bullseye. That sounds. I estimate that the price for each of the three loads runs between $7 and $8 per box of 50. Alliant listed 3.6 gr Bullseye as maximum (15000 psi) in 38 Special and 3.8 as max in 38 Special PLUS P (17000 psi) with 158 LSWC bullets. 5 are good choices. In 38/357 they don't list 105 gr bullets, but the do list 90's and 125's. Easy enough to extrapolate for a 105 grain . Nitpicking is its own reward., I believe the correct spelling is loathe . At 25 you can get away with a lighter load. Did you cross post the bullet weight? Classic loads are economical. These are put into a large hydraulic press and extruded into a continuous coil of wire. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. My other son fired one shot and handed it back. Smith & Wesson Model 27 .357 Magnum (because no 6-inch Smith & Wesson .38 Special revolver was on hand). Sorry I can't be of more help, but I use 158 grain coated RNFP and don't use any of those powders that you list. Its the only gun that has appreciated in value (as long as you ignore inflation). You trade a little less speed for a little more mass but at snubnose velocities I really think the standard 158 grain slug gives the best penetration. I have used everything from simple lead to the most advanced machined copper bullets and found them all to be extraordinarily easy to load and shoot. If there is a search function for these forums (didn't see one) I'd be happy to use that too Go to the Alliant website and find the data for Unique and Bullseye. This represents a great start, and if thats all you do, youll still be far better off than the majority of the population. My hand ached for a week. Hornady also has load data for the 110-grain .357 XTP for the lower-pressure .38 Automatic. I am loath to shoot several cylinders of standard pressure/velocity .38 Special 125 grain bullets out of a Smith and Wesson Model 642 revolver (or similar). And yes I appreciate them for a hunting gun because of their fine accuracy and find trigger pulls (older classic guns). A little shopping around might do better, as would casting the lead bullets. These types of guns are not as strong as more modern solid frame revolvers. Very forgiving with a straight wall case, and tons of bullet variety. Hollow points are not. Like almost all pistol cartridges called ".38" the .38 Special actually takes .357" diameter bullets. Jacketed bullets are legal for DR, as long as they are 158 grain round nose or semi-wadcutter. These bullets shot to point of aim in modern S&W snubbies, but the older M10-5 was regulated with 158 grain bullets and 125's shoot low. I don't have a chronograph, but have considered picking one up. http://www.adi-powders.com.au/handloaders-guide/equivalents.asp. less to start.) Which left me with the last two. Instead, Ive favored things like the K and L frame Smiths (5 screw pre-model 10 and 686 in my case) and Ruger revolvers for higher round count activities. Like the author said, I consider it a garbage disposal round as you can load it with almost anything with good results. Ready to load some Berry's148 gr plated DE wadcutters with Bullseye. A cold header, at their basic level, are multi ton power presses laying down on their side. A Forum dedicated to the sport of Bullseye shooting, Bullseye-L Forum::Ammunition Discussion. I make a habit of counting the number of reloads I make by keeping a tally of primer and bullet boxes. Go figure. If there is only ONE load, it is MAX. JHP, 125 gr. Bullseye Select A Caliber or Gauge Below To View Recipes. Thanks for the start load Power Pistol will run lower pressures for the same velocity than W-W 231. 38 special was also my first cartridge to reload, and one of my greatest loves for reloading to this day. Softer alloys of lead are just easier on the machinery. For best accuracy in slow fire shooting, you may want to raise gun before every shot. That for just a nice shooting load one cant beat 148gr wad-cutter for pure fun. And.those Hornady 158 HPs are easy to reload but I have never had one open up in a varmint of any sort. The floor does not apply for PPC, or the equivalent match for Action Pistol. 4.2 gr. Good thing I didn't go with the original powder charge I intended to use. Think that if a .44 spl. Recoil is subjective and I feel no difference between that and an 750-775 fps load. I have loaded wadcutters for plinking , Double end 148 grain,, mixed brass over 2.7 gn WST or Bullseye. Be careful !!!! . RN, 160 gr. Many reloading manuals also list an estimated pressure with a given load. Click there and go to the load data lookup section . No more lead in the barrel or on my hands. 38 Special 125 gr XTP American Gunner Item #90324 | 25/Box The American Gunner line of ammunition is a collection of tried-and-true, versatile loads that are popular with shooters for their target shooting, hunting or self-defense needs. Ive not had a handgun entirely reject either load, so the recipe seems to be a worthy third alongside the previous .38 and .45. 2.9 of Clays is soft enough and dead accurate at 50yds. Bullseye is one of the oldest smokeless pistol powders and still one of the most popular. Enough that the range Officer at my range recognized them because the muzzle blast made a distinctive cat whisker pattern at 8 and 10, and 2 and 4 o clock. You gotta try the S&W M342 Airlight TI. The quality of the loads equals a bargain. That's usually +P power level in .38 Special. Im new to loading the 38 for accuracy, but the biggest issue I found with case length is your crimp. Beginners to shooting can use a full size revolver or their carry gun with light to mild loads to become confident and familiar with marksmanship and trigger control. Most modern revolvers chambered for .38 SPL are rated to +P, so there is room for error, but care must still be taken. For those who have issues using auto pistils, due ti arthritis or other medical issues with the hands an LCR or 642 is a great choice. You can post now and register later. (For those who would. in a belt holster at 4:00. I.E. I like Bullseye in the 38 Special, and it was a consistent performer with the 125 grain bullets. I fired 3 Remington 125 SJHP 357s from a 340 and thought i had nerve damage in my hand. Youd just be risking ALOT firing it in a .38 framed revolver. Don't worry too much about lead/coated/plated/jacketed. 158 gr. Never got around to trying the T grips. 1.455 in. My point being is I used the resources I have, looked elsewhere (The High Road, The Firing Line), and wanted to try here. Great article & thread!!! Classics go well together: circa 1909 S&W .38 Special and traditional 148-grain wadcutter load of 2.7 grains of Bullseye. My experience has always been with bullseye powder. Magnum 44 S&W Special 45 Colt 45 Auto 45 G.A.P 9mm Luger 9x18mm Makarov 32 S&W Long (Cowboy Action) 32-20 Win. I picked some up from my local Scheels yesterday. Hornady Bullseye is the classic pistol powder and the backbone of many pet loads. Therefore, .38 Special +P ammo can be as much as 17.5 percent hotter than standard .38 Special. I load my own, 130 gr RNFP using Win 231 powder a little over the mid point in the published load data. As anyone learns quickly, first thing that needs to be done is to replace the small factory S&W grips (I use Hogue) so you can hold onto the gun. Groups with these loads ranged from 1.25 inches to just under two inches at 25 yards across a handful of pistols. I have found that if you go down too low in charge you will have some ignition issues occasionally. Because we have no action to cycle, the novice reloader can afford to be off a bit if they have an entry-level scale or powder dispenser. This pistol uses the .38 Special with a Remington wadcutter bullet seated flush with the case mouth. IMR 3031 and IMR 4895 are products of IMR (formerly DuPont) Powder Company. The beauty of shooting a .38 is that you can easily practice at the ranges youd fight at using basically any cheap bullet at minimal expense. Normal 38 spell loads for as long as I can remember were never loaded less than 800FPS and I have loaded for revolvers and autos such as my S&W mod 52 that only shoots flush wadcutters. Use the lead bullet loads with the plated and you will be fine. would also bridge the gap that the .38 versus .357 have in defensive loads. I went from 2.7to 4.0 gr and nothing to speak of. This is an easy-shooting load that can cause some power-philes to tusk-tusk and comment. In terms of thousands of rounds of range practice, though, that is a definite no-go in my book. The .327 Fed Mag is IT! Your previous content has been restored. May 15, 2012. kc2za said: Hi All, I have been loading .38 spl with 2.7 gr. Jack it up a notch and go with .327 Federal Magnum. I agree, an airweight has snappy recoil. My Ruger LCR .357 Magnum is pleasant to shoot even with full pressure loads. This is my plink load for the kids. While I do have a GP100 in .357 magnum, I dont like shooting .38 special ammo out of it, because cleaning powder residue out of the longer chambers is a real bitch. Posted March 2, 2013. Recoil in that gun is less than most 45 ACP 1911s I have shot, and its still got around 500-600ft lbs of energy which is more than enough for feral hogs around the ranch back home. Its just two lubed balls on top of each other with the top ball roll crimped just past the hemisphere. Based on this Id load some at 3.3 and 3.5 and see what you get, but Id never exceed 3.8 ever. was a breeze. 38 Special +P 18,500 .38 Special Montana Gold 125 FMJ Power Pistol 6.1 COL 1.417 Tested with a S&W-686-3, 6", ambient temperature about 32 degrees, no wind, target posted at 25 feet (hey, I'm testing handloads for use, not my long range bear killing skills, defensive only). Discussion: Bullseye is a faster burning powder and some people feel better suited for the .38 special. I favor the appearance of the C/T load and find it slightly easier to grab and orient in the loading process. 38 spl.s. While I wish I could carry a 5 .45 WITNESS with several 10 round mags, as a senior citizen, the S&W J frame is my user friendly alternate. I dont mind it at all, though others do and look to similar performing powders that address these things. Reloading .44 Spl. Your experience is definitely motivation for me to give my J-frame more range time! Soft shooting. If you havent taken a look at what the .38 Special offers, youre selling yourself short. HAVE FUN JP. I have a long way to go before I'm ready to compete, but enjoy plinking and hand loading. Each of the classic loads is also economical. I have not loaded plated bullets in quite some time, since they are not useful for my accuracy needs. So it is my gut feeling that Winchester found it to be touchy in smaller calibers like 38 special and 9mm Luger. Anyway, you are probably right that the revolver guys trend towards the older end of the spectrum, but I think some of the younger guys are starting to catch on to the magic of wheel guns. The Bullseye powder pushed five into two inches flat for another 1911 that is typically a four-inch gun. If I do carry a revolver its my 642 with a laser grip in my right front pocket or my SW model 69 5 shot 44 mag. Years back, for indoor matches I teamed the heavier S&W Model 28 with 3.4 grains of the same powder and bullet in . Shoot cast and coated bullets and you can go much higher in load and velocity. Main fame for the .38 is now the J frame size revolvers, as a CCW gun. Most starting .357 reloading powder levels will fall in this .38 +P+ type reload, and the powder being used can be selected (faster or slower) based on barrel length. I never enjoyed touching off a 357 Mag in a K frame, and I cannot imagine the discomfort of firing it in anything smaller or lighter. Clays, Universal, HP38, HS6 and H4895 are products of Hodgdon Powders. S&W M637-2 2" barrel IIRC, I used 4.5 gr of Bullseye under a 125 gr lead bullet for a light plinker, and 5.6 gr of Bullseye under a 148 gr wadcutter (~815 fps, 4" bbl, probably around 750 fps out of a snub). Content . There are so many new powders today, its hard to keep up. I only wish the brass was more available locally. Note the dark band of lube on the 3 lead bullets. I was just trying to get a general consensus of what other guys were using. A handgunner using .38 Specials is set for targets, plinking and small game while .357 Mag. Great gun with the best factory double action trigger Ive ever shot. Some people then claimed SAAMI raised the 357 Mag to 45,000. The average street punk today has more firepower than the Russian Army did in WWII and trying to re-load a revolver in a fire fight is the best way to commit suicide that I could ever think of. I am using this load in some .38 specials. A longer case, with have a tighter crimp them a shorter one, what will lead to variations in pressure, and accuracy. ammunition in the same gun enables that shooter to hunt larger game and to fend off beasts that snarl. I buy 158 SWCHP all the time.my main bullet. Good job on you! What I have found most remarkable is how well some pistols that typically fling wide groups have clustered the semiwadcutters. 4.2 gr. 148-grain wadcutter brings accuracy that begs the shooter to test their limits. If you, I took the vow not to buy any more AR-15s a couple of years ago. Very versatile cartridge. My personal loads for practice replicate my carry. Do you folks think a start at 3.0 gr and work up from there with a 125 gr bullet would be a safe load. Now, you have to go to a range or have a membership and pay to fill the backstop with lead. That revolver is aluminum and cannot handle the pressure of 9MM. There is a difference in the manufacturing process of swaged bullets. My guess would be almost identical, straight wall, not high pressure, definitely. I use 2.8-3.0 grains of Bullseye or AA#2 with 158 gr. There is almost no recoil and the student can increase power level when they feel ready using the same gun. Many of these men had no real experience with the handgun, and we had but a few weeks to get them up to very high standards that most shooters will never reach. How Do I Choose Good Self-Defense Ammo For My Handgun? The cold header swages a bullet in one or two strokes. is limited to either the various Charter Arms models, or as a training/target load in a .44 magnum size handguns. A revolver shooting .38 SPL only requires the power of your finger to make it fire and can thus be loaded with ammo that is extremely mild or hotter than hot. Load shot well out of a variety of service handguns. Note: More and more test are conducted with all rounds fired with powder UP against the primer for each shot, or DOWN on the bullet for each shot, then gently bring to horizontal to shoot. Hornady When I teach other people the basics of reloading, I teach them on the .38 SPL. head I use 3.2gr. Have not confirmed the difference with a chronograph. Load cut these cards at five yards out of this Model 15. Many people tend to poo-poo .38 Special (standard pressure) for self-defense as being somehow underpowered. WST seems like such a good powder in .45 ACP that I thought I might try it. Most notably the lighter weight bullets. I don't have a chronograph, but have considered picking one up. : 13,300 16,800 Starting Powder: 6.0 gr Starting Velocity: 1,266 The mention of a Lee Loader somewhere above took me back to the good-old days. 9 mm, .40 sw, 45 acp, .44 mag. The fast powders, W231, HP38, Bullseye would go over pressure very quickly with any slight changes, in seating depth or primer change. This is good, because the snub takes a lot of practice to have a consistent capability. I've tried Berry's plated as well as Remington. To many shooters, .45 ACP means 230-grain hardball at 830 fps. Ive been looking for a reason to get into reloading, and am particularly intrigued by the extremely long case life of .38 Special. A Forum dedicated to the sport of Bullseye shooting, Bullseye-L Forum::Ammunition Discussion, byPacFltShooter Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:00 am, byPacFltShooter Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:36 pm, byPacFltShooter Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:46 pm, byPacFltShooter Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:45 pm, byPacFltShooter Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:50 pm. "Berry's Superior Plated Bullets are the finest bonded copper-jacketed bullets available today.." ?. Ethan Johns is a military professional with worldwide experience in specialized units. @ Grumpy- I tried LOTS of grips on S&W revolvers. Enter 38 Special. IMHO .38 special is just fine for self defense, but just not enough to crack engine blocks. Everyone here who has tried plated bullets including myself, have had disappointing results in accuracy. Wife handled it with no problem, those 5 Super Vel had been in the gun probably over 5 years by then, she bought it to CARRY, not to shoot, if she needed to fire it to save her life it would be fine. Although the .357 cylinders are the same length so they can be timed to a 642. Now theres an old memory. I first started reloading 40+ years ago at a Lee Loader in .38 Special for a brand new Smith & Wesson Model 66 I had just purchased. are you loading .38 special brass, or .357 magnum brass? Regulator, SBSS #2255, Pawnee Station, Ro I & II. Alliant listed 3.6 gr Bullseye as maximum (15000 psi) in 38 Special and 3.8 as max in 38 Special PLUS P (17000 psi) with 158 LSWC bullets. In one or two strokes, the bullet is formed ready for dip lubing.