Now, explain the literal meaning of the chain. Your response is the first Ive read that seems to hold some hope that I may in fact continue reading this thread. Is there a man here who would go over and console Coy at the expense of his sister. All. There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. (Romans 8:1 ESV). With the latest revelations on child molestation, Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale posted on Tuesday the following statementin response to the allegations: "Our church was saddened to hear of the allegations made against Bob Coy years after his resignation and departure as senior pastor. He admitted to it. MacArthur is being grossly misrepresented here. However, keep in mind that Coy would sue me into oblivion if I was wrong. Im Glad God is in charge and not most Christians. Night all (everyone whos still up). I have respected his request. Its up to God whether or not Bob Coy is restored to leadership of any kind and that is not on any one mans timetable or ratio. Thanks for the attribution Michael, thats how it went down. If we find ourselves taking joy in the sins of others we need to take a serious self inventory as we arent what we imagine we are and in need of forgiveness ourselves. Im not doubting your passion for your convictions. Were prayers publicly offered for Bobs wife and children and the church Bob has hurt so badly or has the church now expunged the record and just moving forward. She also acknowledged the forms that made clear her refusal to be kept on a ventilator in the event of a medical emergency. An indiscretion with a woman..ok.two women is ok in this culture. Coy, who has also been divorced from his wife, is reportedly looking into the prospect of starting a new church again despite the controversy. Michael and erunner, thank you for the kind words. David was disqualified after his adultery with Bathsheba, Uriahs wife, from that building. Who made you Coys torpedo? And then he quotes passages that dont contain the words he said Jesus said. - -, - : - , -, , . Hope you stick around. Diane also drew a picture for the jurors _ a roadway, a few trees and two trucks. , Now, using your best effort, not to be like us and not being consistent, in denying the literal aspects of scripture and have to do exegetical gymnastics and use pretzel logic to try to prove their conclusions that the Bible does not mean what it says,- as you said. Stay up to date with the latest Christian news! Cue the anthem.. Its crazy that people think Bob Coy had ONE affair, caught a conscience about it and decided to step down. I have no issue with him looking at porn. MLD this is interesting and the first ive heard of this. I knew his daughter, he was a good dad. Time for dinner. he pronounces judgement 4.) Jake and his mother were like her own sons to her. 5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins. He had other associate pastors go publicly in front of the congregation after their infidelity. If anything, this week, this place, has attempted to bring some good, some lessons, some encouragement, and some healing to those caught in that wreckage, and I include myself in that group. http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/78354908268/nothing. [12], Coddington was hospitalized on December 31, 2007. repentance REPENTANCE, n. 1. Diane Coy is on Facebook. It is not material at this point whether anyone was complicit or the Moses model created this situation. None of us are in a position to throw stones, judge, or cast aspersions upon or condemn himonly God can. My heart goes out to his wife and kids. All this stuff about Love Out Loud was a big con.. How many people did Coy or Calvary go after that left the church.Coy never did he didn;t care. It will be interesting in this post-Coy(tal) era to learn the truth as it comes out. It is just people like we PhoenixPreacher-ites who dont follow the rules that leave. Many people- even as of yesterday didnt even know he was gone. It should take time and healing. Certainly they sinned as well, but Im only seeing defense of 1/2 (or 1/3, or 1/4, or.) Not judge him!! At least it is for me. Want it to stop. Gary, if you have an issue you can email me . Someone on the other blog I referenced wrote about the last few messages that BC preached. Whoever is talking about pride ? We have been waiting for him to make things right. I believe it was originally 103 until those 2 donors backed out. Plantation? Mary! In fact, at least eight pastors, staffers, and volunteers in Calvary Chapel's network around the United States have been charged with abusing children since 2010. Of courseleave it to the Pharisees to fight amongst, not for, themselves. I completely agree with Michelle @175. it never happened. The church has had every opportunity to deal with this story. Andrew, Michale requested that theological debates cease immediately, to let people here grieve if they so choose. Hi Lorenzo, There is another reason some of us choose monogamy, and that is love. The church should set a mechanism for those that dont know how to deal with their sin to discretely discuss it and decide how to move forward. I could.just throw up from the intentions of the church, surely the Spirit of God is more grieved in this than the sanctification process that may be happening in my home church. In 1998, financial trouble due to a $465,000 loss from a bankrupt customer led Coddington to re-organize Boyd's Wheels and partner with his eldest son (Boyd Coddington, Jr.). My best advice is to try a few, some you will leave saying I wont go back Some you will attend for a few weeks and get a feel for it. Look up all the scenes with thrones and Gods people gathered around and determine if it is on earth or in heaven. Why are we sitting there looking at people performing on stage anyway? I dont care if its Billy Graham, Chuck Smith or John Calvin himself who came back from the dead if they should appear and teach contrary to the word of God, they are to be rejected. Lots of supportlots of informationas well as a lot of CC nuts. Coy certainly paid a heavy price for his infidelity: His family has broken to pieces, and his chapels packed with thousands of adoring fans have been replaced with a half-full nightclub in Boca. From what I understand, many employed knew something was going down for a long time. Where is your indignation over that? Ive never been married. 3. I want to see for myself. God takes this specific sin very seriously as He allows for divorce when it takes place. For her perfecting, she awaits the return of her Lord. No excuses, no buts. It scares me when I read he should still be the pastor. Give me a break. Pastor Bob will be focusing his full attention on his personal relationship with God and with his family. Cant seem to wonder if Pastor Clay knew something and that is why he resigned the end of last year. Do you ever think about the emotional damage you cause these women or the families you break up? Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. It just shows you cant answer me, so you put up a man who has been dead over 400 yrs and argue with him. Theres also much to say about when they began having auctions at the church. Force yourself to consider whether He is Who He claims to be. God bless you all. As it is biblical to do so. Let this be a sign to you, that if by this time next year calamity has not befallen you, to teach you to not malign Gods work and kingdom! I still recall your attitudes when Jimmy Kempner got exposed for solicitation of a woman for sexa woman who turned out to be undercover officer for the Tustin Police. You judge that we are judging him, when the truth is it was his board who judged him and found him guilty as heck. What Happened to Aunt Diane? Amid that legal battle, the movement essentially split in half shortly after Smith's death. Please remember the mercy and forgiveness that out Heavenly Father has shown you before you judge or cast stones. For the imature in Christcontinue to drink your milkwe are praying for you. Thank you. Right, he didnt believe his own Bible studies. Many of them do indeed have this going on, yes. Sharon saw her father going through it firsthand. Ironic that having 2 parts of a supposed godhead personally active in ones life isnt enough protection from seductive women. They could not take the invasion of their religion as the king of Prussia made them worship with the Calvinists that another story. Might I ask, other than providing a platform for the information about what has happened with Bob Coy to be disseminated, what are you hoping will be accomplished (as a minister of the gospel yourself) will be accomplished by publishing this information? For everyone. Let me answer some of your comments posed as questions: I doubt anyone has any idea where the 103 million was used. A board meeting was called on Thursday in which he confessed and resigned. You sound too often like a bored office worker that just likes to argue with people online. Anon, I cant really say how I know. Isnt this why our precious savior came? What about the husbands and children of the women you use just for kicks, so you dont get bored? Thats right, his own church leadership did the judging. And when I was little, they often took me with them to church, and I remember the impression the services made on me. God bless. It went for far less than the first. For one thing if you had accountability partners and people that youre answerable to like you claim, then you would not have this blog as a tool of Satan, accusing the brethren, you are just a discontented wannabe pastor who meets in a living room with 10 people, criticizing and begrudging the work of God because youre not part of it! These pastors are lifted up and deified and made into celebrities, so then it becomes Bob Coys church Raul Riess church Greg Lauries church instead of the Church of Jesus Christ, and when these men fall the little gods we had erected fall and then we can hear God say, I am God and I am still on the throne!. Is it all false because he fell short. MLD is a long time blogger here and a Lutheran NOT a Calvinist. Reading Paiges comments really brought home for me the absolute horror for the wife of a pastor who falls in such a big way. He is being destroyed in the media and the usual covering has not been applied by CCCM. Lets see you tie that to Rev 20. My first teaching exposure at CCFtl was about Hosea and Gomer. Just a simple yes or no will suffice. Let us gather in prayer for the church, the family as well as for Bob that restoration, deliverance be thy restored. Flynn, one cannot separate doctrine from practice; the two do not exist separately. I have absolutely no sympathy for the adulterer. This post is the work of SATAN. He was a prime target of the devil with such a large following. Humiliation breeds humility. just because others in the Body of Christ hold to different conclusions regarding aspects of theology doesnt require them to be wrong. Isnt it cute when we call it moral failure. Godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation. As I read posts of support, I want to point out that there were many of us who attended this church faithfully for many years..and we were indirectly harmed by this church under this mans leadership- If you did not fit into the box you were forced out. Andy, the whole passage is figurative or symbolic. The topic of Bob Coy has brought many here who are shell shocked by what they read as opinions are strong. This is bad for the pastor, bad for the general congregation. Because of their public persona, people like us are also passing judgement on her personal life. Some times I come in so late that I just leave again. Not only has she been publicly shamed, in front of her friends, family and all whom she held dear, but she has been shamed by a husband who found her lacking and inadequate. If you live in the area, you know it is not easy finding a church when you are looking for meat. Kate Forbes: Would a Christian be permitted to lead Scotland. In 1968, he moved to California building hot rods by day and working as a machinist at Disneyland during the night. to 666/Bob we dont even know what the mark truly is some say it is symbolic, some say physical and some say mental:(. And I did ask Andy and others if they could make a connection between Isaiah and the millennium? Thank you! Hugh if you are going to MOCK at least read the Bible before you mock people who do actually read it. There are 476 comments so far as I write this. He failed, thats what men do. I told Michael he could post a thread to what I shared at Grants Pass almost 8 years ago. Shortly after resigning, the disgraced pastor moved to Chattanooga, Tennessee, where Calvary Chapel has another affiliate church. 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The sexual assault claims, which have never before been divulged, raise new questions about the pastor, his church, and the police who handled the case. Pastor Bob was screwing women other than his wife. Let them tear eachother apart like wolves. http://www.charismanews.com/us/43401-confessing-moral-failure-meagchurch-pastor-bob-coy-resigns-calvary-chapel-fort-lauderdale?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter. Youre right. Check felony records of the school substitute teacher. MLD, we are listening to the apostles. Secondly the Bible will say adultery or fornication but fornication can include many types of different types of sexual sin, its not pertinent to dwell on the sin itself and bring out every lurid detail of that sin for your viewing pleasure and for you to dwell in. What do you do, you just put up little sayings to avoid answering the question, it doesnt change the question, its still waiting to be answered! Although Bob was a pastor of a mega church and held to a higher standard, he is still a human being, and human beings are flawed sinners. Then there was another put up for bid winning at a lower price. Make your own application. Is this what was meant or was Nebuchadnezzar telling them to get it as hot as possible? If your understanding of the Bible has completely isolated you from the greater Body of Christ, it is safe to say you are misunderstanding it. So do we go to punishment or restoration? You are covering for a very scary thing. Jean- Yes it went on because I knew a couple that had dinner with BC and wife with only a few other couples. Its because we do sin. Money really is the root of all kinds of evil. Be careful, any of us could be next. The church finds her visible, yet imperfect, expression in local congregations where the Word of God is preached in its purity and the sacraments are administered in their integrity; where scriptural discipline is practiced, and where loving fellowship is maintained. Is it a place to raise up believers to Go out and make disciples? As his star rose and his congregation grew into the tens of thousands, the Sun Sentinel solicited weekly faith columns written by Coy. Im concerned with those whose lives have been shattered by Bob Coys choices. We arent really transformed in a manner any different than Mormons or Atheists or others who make a decision to be more or less moral in our lives. Pray for Bob in this very dark hour for many. It sure seemed to confuse many when he was with Greg and Chuck at the Harvest Crusade and was present at Chucks memorial. I know of huge churches that do teach the Bible, and arent funny at all, and they still have a large attendance. Life now consists of unfair scorn for Diane and the kids. We all know the scriptures and as a previous poster mentioned let he who is without sin cast the first stone, to that I would add, considering ourselves lest we also be tempted!. 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Barbara wrote: The following exposes present facts about John Macarthur that he needed to know and we tried to explain, but to no avail. Back 160 yrs ago Martin Stephan led the Lutherans from Saxony to America. Scary how someone can look you in the eye, while doing a sermon filled with lies. There is more going on at this church than just this infidelity. > Steve Wright, ( obviously a real person, one of the brave ones): as you correctly state, I am in fact a visitor, and apparently one arriving with nievte (relative to a newcomer).as you so poignantly state, caught in the wreckage Yours is the only post that reflects some of what I would expect/hope for amongst believers , (and for that I thank you i.e. Bob and family obviously dont want to face any more humiliation. Our relationships with Jesus need to matter more than getting up in front of a crowd does. What's even weirder is that a bunch of basically identical articles about her that state it was a rumor prior to the series dropping but now is "debunked due to her being in the series" which makes zero sense since people can die after filming an interview and just shows they didn't watch the series. Their fellowship there- and their clichs-their high class restaurant-a place to impress non-believers so they can get saved there and their position of importance was more important than standing up for the truth. Christians must never, ever put their faith in the created, only in the creator (Romans 1). The Gospel is forgiveness and reconciliation. I have been married over 45 yrs and am almost Muslim like when I come in the presence of other women. Pastor Robert Coy, the former Las Vegas casino entertainment director turned religious leader for one of Florida's biggest megachurches, has been accused of molesting a 4-year-old girl. What are you talking about? I mark you as a false teacher whose teaching is, what were the words you used of others??? They are the ones truly in need of prayer. Have you wrote Bob ripping him for his sin and asking for proof of repentance? To "avoid substantial injury" to Coy's former employer Calvary Chapel according to the court file. This is a test from God and you have failed it miserably my friend. My Prayers and heart go to Bob Coy and his family. The governing board of the church is providing counselors and ministers who will help guide him through the process of full repentance, cleansing and restoration, the statement reads. Im not too concerned about Bob Coy right now.. This isnt about me, and by making it about me, you bear false witness and sin yourself. Bob Coy had a long run. BC was seated at their table, even though they were new compared to others who attended for over 20 years at that point. But that doesnt mean you are any less capable of doing the same bad things you did before you were officially savedand the mindset is that, Well hed never do that, hes been transformed by the power of Jesus!well, no, that isnt true. The less-er donors got a buffet lunch. The worship leader left a few months back with no explanation. Bob Coy, at Liberty University's convocation in 2013. Larry Erickson, later the chief designer of the Mustang and Thunderbird for Ford Motor Co., worked with Coddington early on, and specifically credits the CadZZilla collaboration for jump-starting his career. Im glad its yours and yours alone, this way perhaps you might just keep your hypocrisy to yourself, just be ready that when you judge a man, you are ready to be judged as well! Me and those of my ilk are progressive christians. did you see me talking to myself all afternoon on the other thread? In theology, the pain, regret or affliction which a person feels on account of his past conduct, because it exposes him to punishment. Michael, youre kicking against Gods goading and your colors are showing. I do just fine praying for myself. I never liked him .he was a smooth talker actor on stage and the bigger he became the bigger and cockier he became. Youre just twisting Acts 2 in the same way. You got that right, MLD is probably 300 lbs., sitting on a big leather sofa eating popcorn as he writes, with three cats purring around him, while his wife yells from the other room, get off the computer and take the trash out as he answers in a moment, I gotta write one more thing, I have no sympathy for adulterers, may they rot in hell! And then he prays to himself, Thank you God that I am not like that Bob Coy!. I personally believe that when more people with big bucks started attending, things really changed. Just answer the question! The only one who was worried was Vince. My heart has been so heavy since I heard of this. We all make mistakes and we must pray for him. God will show love and mercy to whoever he wantsand it might just be all humans at some point. Right now I agree that the church in Florida needs to rally around Bobs wife and children while at the same time taking necessary steps in church discipline towards Bob that he would overcome these sins and salvage his marriage and the relationships with his children if thats still possible. Michael continues to be a blogger fail, spreading innacurate information, in hopes of being a journalist/blogger while these comments help sell him ads and he continues to beg for money via paypal on here. Calvin did not come up with any new doctrines, nor did he teach the mangled misrepresentations that you have presented. To enjoy our website, you'll need to enable JavaScript in your web browser.
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