This could be a very handy skill to our team. For the next four days they travel. Missing Lynn Haven juveniles. Ive seen cases in which political frenemies were erased out of photos without a trace. However, a lot of the photos seem to have been tampered with and one of them was even deleted from their camera, which could only have been done using a computer. Snoeren had called West and told her: "With all that Im reading now in the police file, it couldnt be anything else there was a certain sequence and timing to it, that had to be caused by the flash floods, typical to the region and season. It IS strange that the attempted SOS calls were so few. WHY? This is speculation. Or if they went, they could have been followed by someone the murderer (or murderers). After the backpack was found the family got to see the pictures and the case was ruled an accident presumably the 30 or so pics the family didnt release showed the girls in bad shape,, the case went from foul play to accident after the pics were seen.. the pic of the girls hair was put on internet by her brother or something like that and was quickly photoshopped , the wound and eye were concealed. I think that Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon underestimated their surroundings and were ill prepared for this adventure. I dont think so. The point-and-shoot camera numbers its files in ascending order, the way most digital cameras do. Im very curious Ive heard rumors but have never found verified information. I really hope the girls rest in peace and that nobody goes through this ever. Her skin does not look pallid like that of a dead person, it is still pink.
Impact of the Pandemic on Tourism - IMF F&D Yes, you are right that a great deal of caution is necessary. The people in Panama may be afraid to speak, but in Europe, the USA and other Central American countries there are pods of people still working on the case. After this, the photos were from April 8, 2014and likely snappedbetween 1 amand 4 am. Interesting that you. I have read several of the books. Some people claim that maybe photo #509 could have been corrupted as some sort of faulty camera configuration, but that wouldnt make sense even corrupted files retain some data and bits of the original file itself. incredibly complicated for a new story to be written. Maybe one girl regained consciousness at night and took the pictures.
At least 3 tourists are still missing after gunmen kidnapped them in Two Dutch tourists Kris Lemers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22 disappeared while out on a hike in Panama in April 2004. Is it possible that Kris and Lisanne reached this field with fencing (past the second stream crossing) and mistook this place to be a different entry to the farm areas which are closer to the trail head ? A wave of deadly exorcisms have griped the country, under the guise of religion, at the hand of a death cult. Also, sometimes the investigations go dead because the government wants the story to go away in order for the tourist trade to not be hurt. Full remains were found soon afterward and were assumed to be the two missing women. And I agree that her hands are free. If anything, that is an evidence that they were taking more risks than a regular tourist/hiker, so being lost and/or injured seems to me much more reasonable explanation (than murdered) based on that. Most dog owners here do not use a leash when walking their dogs. I also think that we are looking at man-made roof structure, but its not the last photo, right? The dog ran away and they followed it into the woods to try to get it back? I cover a lot of these things in my other comprehensive article regarding Kris Kremers Bones: There are simply too many variables involved to oversimplify the case with the conclusion that they got lost. The picture where she is crossing the stream and looking back, her smile looks forced. In the days following the students' disappearances, authorities conducted footand aerial searches. & very very eerie all in all- I think youre absolutely right on its significance. I think someone took them there. Rocko Akira Clapp. I cant say what it is, but it looks similar to an object, that can be seen in some of the nighttime photos, like in this one here. I would think they had to be pretty far into the jungle to have come across that slat roof structure. If you look at her shirt, it appears to be red and white striped. Does anyone agree with me? He wasnt walking with them. Thanks for pointing this out. It looks like an indigenous person with shiny black hair walking away from Kris. That is the key. In reality, I dont think someone would go to this extent. Visit Panama City Beach officials tell us in 2021, our tourism numbers were up 50% over pre-pandemic numbers. The remains of both women were found soon after that. We have no final police report only a lot of leaked info much second hand and multiple hand. There are some walls of rock in an area which I think is called los Naranjos, not too far from the Pianista trail (relatively speaking) and is where people go climbing. Also I wish we new more details on the phones. Debra Ann Velleman, 70, of Waukesha, Wisconsin, and Sue Borries, 57, of Teutopolis, Illinois, both retired public school teachers, were part of a community of snowbirds and expats living in the area of Chame, Panama. Oliver, I just looked at your 1st link, and I can clearly see a human face in the red circle. Also, people do not give off a rosy glow from their backs, as can be seen here. He wants the gringos to go away and leave him in peace. I noticed that youve submitted two more links in another newer comment. Why werent those outgoing calls being completed? Its possible theres a painted insignia on the post to right of Kris. Forced disappearance. According to ageographicalexpert, the three-mile stretch is relatively easy to explore, and most missing tourists return without assistance or come across search parties looking for them. Someone was with the girls when the two photos of them were taken on the Pianista summit. But shes too far out now. I have seen some gruesome stuff where a captor will smash the feet of a captive to prevent escape. i found it hard to understand and pickup any of the highlighted objects.i grew up in a tropical country and spent a lot of my childhood exploring woods and secondary jungles around my home with my friendsthe way i see it is that the girl have encountered a thick unpenetrable undergrowth at the end of some sort of a gorge.maybe in an effort to find a way through or out of it.when youre at ground level in a jungle its just a green world and colour hues jumbled up in some sort of a mess.and after a while you started noticing odds shapes n colours through the leavesoccassinally there will be thrash thrown around.just my thoughts. Ive been into crime shows lately and my husband says I should be an investigator because Im obsessed. 9.3 million tourists visited Australia in 2019 (year ending June 2019). Also right inside the cave looks like a fox or something similar is painted on the rock. Turn on desktop notifications for breaking stories about interest? He ledo toda la compilacin y visto la mayora de videos. Also I see a black pipe if you look carefully near one of the red and black objects the one that was circled. Accordingly, Kremers's phone was powered-on one last time on April 11, 2014; both phones wentdead afterward. Adrien McNaughton Was Surrounded by Family, He Left Behind Books He Wrote in Secret Code, The Door Was Open, and Baby Lisa Was Gone. Why are both her hands behind her back? They very quickly realized that they could not find the point where they entered the jungle and if they were in trouble, and that is when the 911 calls started. That said, even if there is a structure there, it has been made clear that there are a lot of trails on the other side of the El Mirador that are used by the indigenes, so it wouldnt be surprising to see indications of these areas being used. If they had solved the case, the international community (and the families) would have been satisfied and let it fade into history. How close was this tribe to where they went missing? However there appear to be yellowish/beige shadows and it looks like a sandstone cliff. But absolutely everything points to it being a case of underestimating the jungle and dying from exposure. I dont think so. OmgIm staring at this pic. Ive considered a number of possibilities on the pictures. It does not make sense to me. And that looks to be a stocker style stand. But we need to be careful about the information we have. Froons bones appeared as if they had decomposed naturally, but Kremerss bones were mysteriously stark white as if they had been bleached, raising questions about whether someone had been involved in their deaths. Im considering putting together a research team to visit Panama and further investigate the details of the case interviews, videos, mapping terrain, etc. I think that I read somewhere that something blue was found on one of the shoes. "I saw a child get dragged down the river when he let go of his parents' hands. Weird. https://u.cubeupload.com/beavermatic/KrisKremersFullPhoto.jpg, Her hands are not tied behind her back! Does anyone know where this photo was taken in relation to their happy photos taken at the top of the Continental divide? one girl got hurt, i think in the fall the camera got wet and bumped. For me the strongest clue that not anything sinister happened is that the family refused to have ALL photos released because some show the girls in a very rough state. It would be interesting to see a map of possible mobile blackspots because it seems where ever they were IF STATIONARY then they were on the extreme edge or reception dependent on atmospherics. Have you managed to obtain a copy? after studying the original photo, she is actually posing sticking her tongue out, in a slight hunched over salute, the light is hitting her hand, her pose and demeanor makes me believe it is Lisanne taking the photo. I know if I was hiking and wandering in the jungle (and presumably possibly lost although not quite realizing this at this point), I would be curious about a manmade structure like this. Kremers and Froon set out into the forest along thePianista Trail around 11 amon April 1, 2014,with only a backpack between them. Tourism in Panama represents one of Panama's main activities. Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22, went for a walk through the scenic forests around the Baru volcano in Boquete - and never returned. He drowned a short time after. It isnt a cave, somebody has shown in a youtube video that it us just a very deep path on the wrong side of the mountain with a sharp turn.
International visitor arrivals in Panama 2021 | Statista All items were in one place at this point, and together the elements and biology dispersed them and kept some for the jungle. Then consider Kris and Lisannes parents when they trekked with a group along the trail, across two streams, until they reached a field with the disintegrating fence posts and the tall lone tree some hundred meters away. A man and a woman. No accident. If I remember correctly half of a pelvic bone was found that belong to the other girl so I think we should give the other girl some thought. I read extensively about this case and when I saw the above pic, I got the most eerie feeling. But in the last year, several mass graves have been unearthed, revealing to the world a dark practice of human sacrifice which is thriving in the jungles of Panama. or Thats suspicious and leads me to question if government was involved to some degree. Its perfectly normal and had they not tragically passed, its the type of photo theyd have been joking about later. Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue L. Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. I read that the backpack belonged to Lisanne Froon. And why? I dont believe that anything ominous is happening to Kris in this specific photo. And the black mark on her face. In the picture of her in the Cave? The phones remained active for nearly 10days after the pair went missing. Also important is who they met because two tall and very attractive new arrivals would certainly get all the boys tongues wagging. She decided to attempt to reach her friend, or help via phone. Many people in El Salvador permit their dogs to roam freely outside in the streets and forests. Perhaps it was created by locals in the region. The causes of Kremerss and Froons tragic death have never been determined and the two bodies that were recovered have not even been conclusively found to be either of the girls. The rock in the riverbed is very distinctive was this location ever found and explored? I think its equally powerful just to disprove the official theory. Someone with darkish skin. There are a lot of different indigenous tribes of Panama, most of which are peaceful. You can even see the smudges or blurring on the bottom of the plants into the dark areas in an attempt to blend the darkness area (where something or someone was likely standing). After exhaustive thought, my theory: First, respect to family, friends, and the good. Eight tourists from Moscow who. Kids in the area could have found the backpack and were just messing around with the camera. and then found by someone and then the real nightmare started. Note the shadow across her face , covering her eyes: that is from her hand. This is an interesting analysis, of this photos and the case in general. A disturbing set of photographs are at the center of a mystery of the disappearance and death of two young women in Panama and local authorities are currently bewildered by a conspicuously missing photo file on their SD card. This story struck my heart. With regards to the photos, they are probably real. Solvable: yes; but with each year that goes by less likely. I dont see what the writer sees at all. I would prefer to stay anonymous and off the website, so you have permission to use my email. I also see the handing ornament, whatever that is called and definitely a roof structure with leaves and branches above her. Call us in Washington, D.C. at 1-888-407-4747 (toll-free in the United States and Canada) or 1-202-501-4444 (from all other countries) from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m., Eastern Standard Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays). I havent spotted the finger with the silver ring in photo IMG_0580 thats the name of the hair photo, and in the night photos you found out that there are not one but two individuals that are of native origin nonetheless, which specific photos led you to that conclusion? I dont buy it that those girls were murdered on the pianista trail. Especially the beams and details, and the cave behind her. Her hands could be tied behind her back but, if this is the case, then much computer editing was involved because other photos that come AFTER this one in camera sequence show Kriss walking ahead of Lisanne WITHOUT her hands tied behind her back. Lisanne's bones appeared as if they had decomposed naturally - but Kris' bones were mysteriously stark white as if they had been bleached, raising questions about whether someone had been involved in her death. Auto Reset and Continuous. This is relevant because if the camera was on Auto Reset and 509 was deleted before 510 was taken, then the camera would use image 509 again. Possibly ambushed and didnt have time? Tourists are usually only targeted when something goes wrong or someone has a specific personal problem with foreigners or a subset of foreigners. Thats from her palm. Nice investigation. At dawn the rain stops and she sets out. This eliminates all questions about why didnt the girls call X, Y, Z.
German Tourist Sexually Assaulted After Being Lost In Panama's Jungles Im not sure if people can really talk with animals but i sure would try and see by calling on a few and get their opinion. People in developed countries often have a more ideal view of what a pet represents. Also subsequently one or the other phone connected without them obviously knowing. Hi Birgitte, thank you for your comment. Hi Jim, That particular photo was supposed to have been taken at 1.20 pm. The place itself might reveal some clues as to what sort of person or people would construct it and what are the chances of them doing something bad. Dutch authors Marja West and Jrgen Snoeren claim they have solved the mystery in their book Lost in The Jungle. What do you think?? The reason being, many people assume that shes leaning over and looking down at the rock before her. Again NO SIGNAL! Btw, phones will connect to emergency services with or without sim card being present. I was surprised to learn that. The Lost Girls of Panama: The Full Story ^ From that point the trail leads over another dangerous cable bridge, and two more rickety plank swing-bridges, before reaching the Ngobe village of Alto Romero on the banks of the Culebra. Another important detail was disclosed to the public: Hctor Abrego was actively searching for the missing . Where are those Pings? So many questions and there is no clear starting place like a police report to read. I was definitely thinking it looks like her hands might be tied behind her back here. That is an interesting photo taken of Kris Kremers under the slatted roof. Yes! It even appears they have some kind tattoo on their back. Right on the bank of the river/stream. Local authorities dont often feel a sense of responsibility to victims and their families. Two months after the backpack was found, a pelvic bone and foot still inside a boot were discovered in the same area, according to La Estrella de Panama. Lisanne sets up a SOS with toilet paper and a mirror, hoping to get the attention of the helicopters. It would be like a marker for anyone to see. In May, a 61-year-old American man went missing and was presumed to have gone overboard while on a cruise through the South Pacific, according to a report from the Australian Associated Press. Who did the manipulation of course is a mystery but it points to being a corroboration of the police narrative that they got lost. Like so many other people I really, really wish we could find the answers to this mystery. One question sticking to the government interference and coverup, with the deletion of a photo (nr, 531?) I wanted to her a benefit of the doubt before I came across this article, yes she did mention red and black feathers on a piece of wood and turquoise pendant and a white mask. Its a bit strange that the dog is not in any picture. What I have not found is concrete evidence of where they went. Perhaps Kris is already caught in the trap and thats why she is in a funny position and her waist is drawn in tight. But dogs in Latin America tend to roam around and go wherever they want theyre very free here. She clearly thinks shes found something amazing. Ive found that there are in fact two native type people visible in the night photos. This backpack suddenly showed up 2 months after the disappearing. The guide had something to do with the girls disappearance. Even on my iPhone I could make it big enough to see odd things in the pic. There are too many variables involved, so I dont speculate much about the dog.
What Is the Bermuda Triangle, and Do Pilots Really Avoid It? - Travel Terrible for the parents. Very interesting.. Im sure that when they left on that short hike that their intention was to be back home before dark and to be back to the host home for supper on time. If a picture is deleted from a camera, its still possible to retrieve it. For a monster (him or them) this was enjoyment. She would probably have gone into what looks like a cave or hut behind her, which may have been a booby trap leading to a long drop either through the floor or at the back of the cave. Someone in the comments put the link to your website thats how I found you! In all of the photos, there is zero evidence to suggest that the dog was truly with the girls on their hike into the forest. I hope you understand my english, im not a native speaker. The jungle knows how to keep its secrets. Also, where did learn that her brother mistakenly put the hair photo online? The Sun website is regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO), Our journalists strive for accuracy but on occasion we make mistakes. to Kris left is a huge dark area that has been poorly obscured with pixellation. I agree with you that what happened is not some misadventure. Is the time that photo was taken known? I see nothing extraordinary in this photo, without stretching imagination. if both then was the other found in their room? Did they each have a camera or only Lisanne? Im always reviewing their case and looking for answers. It appears to me that Kris has her right arm to her right temple and you can see part of her left elbow. Thanks for your consideration with this comment. The backpack contained two pairs of sunglasses, $83 in cash, two bras, a water bottle - and importantly, Lisanne's passport. But after they waved goodbye to the local family for a mid-morning walk on April 1, 2014, they were never seen alive again. Search parties are looking for her. I live in a third world country and sometimes tourists come to grief. It would also be useful to know if the metatarsal bones of Lisannes foot had showed any signs of healing. And more to the right of the insignia, is that water, an underground river maybe, there is like a light at the end. Most of the pictures taken on April 8 are of complete darkness while some show the jungle floor, but two pictures are alarming: one is a picture of some of the girls belongings on a rock, and the other shows the back of Kremerss head with what appears to be a bloodstain in her hair. Article about our trip plans: Research Team Update Support Us, Campaign Link: Mapping The Jungle Trails Of Panama. Caruso, 56, died on June 17 after staying at the Boca Chica Resort in Santo Domingo. I posted a link at Koude Kas of example of Monkeys playing with phones because they were entranced by the flash. It looks straight and like it may go over the eye and above it. Thank you so much for walking the walk. Ive seen the chronological order of the photos posted by Scarlet and some of the strikes me as being askew. Some suggest that they could they have seen something that they didnt want the rest of the world to see. The first all the black area behind her was blackened and smudged. Easily done, I have done that myself several times. Heres what I think happened. The gangs in Panama are much smaller, usually consisting of between 5 and 30 people. So without doubt, someone tampered with the photos to some degree. The pictures taken were used to place Kris in pictures on the Mirador with Lisanne. In fact, Im almost certain of it. They probably came off the summit the wrong way. Theres so much conflicting information regardless of which theory is chosen. This basically kills the idea of living in Panama on permanent tourist status. An explosion in tourism has saved Iceland's economy. (this was enhanced by an AI as someone who has studied this sort of thing professionally, explains some of the distortions and weird patterns in the photos leaves and vines, the AI distorted her face lol and it made it appear she has no arm from the elbow down). Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne. I wonder? The predator is methodical. They keep trying to call emergency. Then there are no images until April 8, when 90 unsettling nighttime pictures were taken with flash in the middle of the jungle with timestamps between 1:00 and 4:00 AM. If you zoom in on the picture, I noticed that her face almost seems distorted, almost as though it was swelled up? I cant explain the calls or photos or intact skin that was found.