Nage ?] So this is interesting. Again, how did Christianity take hold in a world with such a rich mystical tradition? So I want to propose that we stage this play in two acts. That to live on forever and ever, to live an everlasting life is not immortality. So how does Dionysian revelries get into this picture?
Material evidence of a very strange potion, a drug, or a [SPEAKING GREEK]. I mean, that's obviously the big question, and what that means for the future of medicine and religion and society at large. So at the very-- after the first half of the book is over, there's an epilogue, and I say, OK, here's the evidence. Because at my heart, I still consider myself a good Catholic boy. The big question is, did any of these recipes, did any of this wine spiking actually make its way into some paleo-Christian ceremony. And as a lawyer, I know what is probative and what's circumstantial evidence, and I just-- I don't see it there. You also find a Greek hearth inside this sanctuary. But we at least have, again, the indicia of evidence that something was happening there. But please do know that we will forward all these questions to Brian so he will know the sorts of questions his work prompts.
Was Moses high? Studies linking religion and drugs gain traction A lot of Christianity, as you rightly point out, I mean, it was an Eastern phenomenon, all over the eastern Mediterranean. I see something that's happening to people. So Gobekli Tepe, for those who don't know, is this site in southern Turkey on the border with Syria. Eusebius, third into the fourth century, is also talking about them-- it's a great Greek word, [SPEAKING GREEK]. According to Muraresku, this work, BOOK REVIEW which "presents the pagan continuity hypothesis with a psychedelic twist," addresses two fundamental questions: "Before the rise of Christianity, did the Ancient Greeks consume a secret psychedelic sacrament during their most famous and well-attended religious rituals? And so that opened a question for me. BRIAN MURARESKU: Great question. Nazanin Boniadi McGovern also finds wine from Egypt, for example, in 3150 BC, wine that is mixed with a number of interesting ingredients.
Brian C. Muraresku with Dr. Mark Plotkin: The Eleusinian Mysteries And I want to-- just like you have this hard evidence from Catalonia, then the question is how to interpret it. Mona Sobhani, PhD Retweeted. And the reason I find that a worthy avenue of pursuit is because when you take a step back and look at the Greek of the Gospels, especially the Greek of John, which is super weird, what I see based on Dennis MacDonald's scholarship that you mentioned-- and others-- when you do the exegesis of John's gospel, there's just lots of vocabulary and lots of imagery that doesn't appear elsewhere. These mysteries had at their center a sacrament called kykeon, which offered a vision of the mysteries of life and death. Many people see that as symbolic or allegorical or just a nice thing, which is not the case. There's a moment in the book where you are excited about some hard evidence. But so as not to babble on, I'll just say that it's possible that the world's first temple, which is what Gobekli Tepe is referred to as sometimes, it's possible the world's first temple was also the world's first bar. Brought to you by GiveWell.org charity research and effective giving and 5-Bullet Friday, my very own email newsletter.Welcome to The Tim Ferriss Show, where it is usually my job to deconstruct world-class performers to tease out their routines, habits, et cetera that you can apply to your own life. And her answer was that they'd all been cleaned or treated for conservation purposes. This two-part discussion between Muraresku and Dr. Plotkin examines the role psychedelics have played in the development of Western civilization. And if the latter, do you think there's a good chance that religions will adopt psychedelics back into their rituals?". If you die before you die, you won't die when you die. And I got to say, there's not a heck of a lot of eye rolling, assuming people read my afterword and try to see how careful I am about delineating what is knowable and what is not and what this means for the future of religion. So why refrain? In this way, the two traditions coexisted in a syncretic form for some time before . And I think it does hearken back to a genuinely ancient Greek principle, which is that only by fully experiencing some kind of death, a death that feels real, where you, or at least the you you used to identify with, actually slips away, dissolves.
The Immortality Key: The Secret History of the Religion with No Name First I'll give the floor to Brian to walk us into this remarkable book of his and the years of hard work that went into it, what drove him to do this. He was wronged by individuals, allegedly.
PDF The continuity between pagan and Christian cult - Scandinavia There's also this hard evidence that comes out of an archaeological site outside of Pompeii, if I have it correct. The whole reason I went down this rabbit hole is because they were the ones who brought this to my attention through the generosity of a scholarship to this prep school in Philadelphia to study these kinds of mysteries. CHARLES STANG: OK. And that's a question equally for ancient historians and for contemporary seekers and/or good Catholics. BRIAN MURARESKU: Right. And I think what the pharmaceutical industry can do is help to distribute this medicine. And I, for one, look forward to a time when I can see him in person for a beer, ergotized beer or not, if he ever leaves Uruguay. CENTER FOR THE STUDY OF WORLD RELIGIONS, Harvard Divinity School42 Francis Avenue, Cambridge, Massachusetts 02138 617.495.4495, my.hds |Harvard Divinity School |Harvard University |Privacy |Accessibility |Digital Accessibility | Trademark Notice |Reporting Copyright Infringements. 8th century BC from the Tel Arad shrine.
The Immortality Key - David Bookstaber Mark and Brian cover the Eleusinian Mysteries, the pagan continuity hypothesis, early Christianity, lessons from famed religious scholar Karen Armstrong, overlooked aspects of influential philosopher William James's career, ancient wine and ancient beer, experiencing the divine within us, the importance of "tikkun olam"repairing and . If they've been doing this, as you suggest, for 2,000 years, nearly, what makes you think that a few ancient historians are going to turn that aircraft carrier around? . He calls it a drug against grief in Greek, [SPEAKING GREEK]. But unfortunately, it doesn't connect it to Christianity. Now you're a good sport, Brian. So there's a house preserved outside of Pompeii, preserved, like so much else, under the ash of Mount Vesuvius's eruption in the year 79 of the Common Era. So if we can test Eucharistic vessels, I wouldn't be surprised at all that we find one. This book by Brian Muraresku, attempts to answer this question by delving into the history of ancient secret religions dating back thousands of years. That's how we get to Catalonia. But by and large, no, we don't really know. I understand the appeal of that. So Plato, Pindar, Sophocles, all the way into Cicero, Marcus Aurelius, it's an important thing. Now, what's curious about this is we usually have-- Egypt plays a rather outsized role in our sense of early Christianity because-- and other adjacent or contemporary religious and philosophical movements, because everything in Egypt is preserved better than anywhere else in the Mediterranean. You know, it's an atheist using theological language to describe what happened to her. You take a board corporate finance attorney, you add in lots of childhood hours watching Indiana Jones, lots of law school hours reading Dan Brown, you put it all together and out pops The Immortality Key. Psychedelics Today: PTSF 35 (with Brian Muraresku) Griffithsfund.org I'd never thought before about how Christianity developed as an organized religion in the centuries after Jesus' murder. But I do want to push back a little bit on the elevation of this particular real estate in southern Italy. Joe Campbell puts it best that what we're after is an experience of being alive. The Immortality Key, The Secret History of the Religion With No Name.
Leonardo Torres Pagan, PhD - Subject Matter Expert & Editor - LinkedIn In 1950, Martin Luther King, Jr. wrote " The Influence of the Mystery Religions on Christianity " which describes the continuity from the Pagan, pre-Christian world to what would become early Christianity in the decades and centuries before Jesus Religion & Mystical Experiences, Wine And by the way, I'm not here trying to protect Christianity from the evidence of psychedelic use. There have been really dramatic studies from Hopkins and NYU about the ability of psilocybin at the end of life to curb things like depression, anxiety, and end of life distress. BRIAN MURARESKU: Right. But it survives. And I think that we would behoove ourselves to incorporate, resuscitate, maybe, some of those techniques that seem to have been employed by the Greeks at Eleusis or by the Dionysians or some of these earliest Christians. So we move now into ancient history, but solidly into the historical record, however uneven that historical record is. A profound knowledge of visionary plants, herbs, and fungi passed from one generation to the next, ever since the Stone Age? These were Greek-- I've seen them referred to as Greek Vikings by Peter Kingsley, Vikings who came from Ionia. And how do we-- when the pharmaceutical industry and when these retreat centers begin to open and begin to proliferate, how do we make this sacred? There was an absence of continuity in the direction of the colony as Newport made his frequent voyages to and . Others would argue that they are perfectly legal sacraments, at least in the Native American church with the use of peyote, or in the UDV or Santo Daime, I mean, ayahuasca does work in some syncretic Christian form, right? So I think it's really interesting details here worth following up on. With more than 35 years of experience in the field of Education dedicated to help students, teachers and administrators in both public and private institutions at school, undergraduate and graduate level. Because again, when I read the clinical literature, I'm reading things that look like mystical experiences, or that at least at least sound like them. These sources suggest a much greater degree of continuity with pre-Christian values and practice than the writings of more . I think it's important you have made a distinction between what was Jesus doing at the Last Supper, as if we could ever find out.
PDF Thesis-The Religion of Constantine I - University Of Ottawa So it wasn't just a random place to find one of these spiked wines.
#646: Brian C. Muraresku with Dr. Mark Plotkin The Eleusinian CHARLES STANG: OK. I imagine there are many more potion makers around than we typically recognize. In the same place in and around Pompeii, this is where Christianity is really finding its roots. He has talked about the potential evidence for psychedelics in a Mithras liturgy. The pagan continuity hypothesis theorizes that when Christianity arrived in Greece around AD 49, it didn't suddenly replace the existing religion. We still have almost 700 with us. But what I hear from people, including atheists, like Dina Bazer, who participated in these Hopkins NYU trials is that she felt like on her one and only dose of psilocybin that she was bathed in God's love. All right, so now, let's follow up with Dionysus, but let's see here. In my previous posts on the continuity hypothesis . IMDb is the world's most popular and authoritative source for movie, TV and celebrity content. So Dionysus is not the god of alcohol. And so that's what motivated my search here. BRIAN MURARESKU: Now we're cooking with grease, Dr. Stang. And that the proof of concept idea is that we need to-- we, meaning historians of the ancient world, need to bring all the kinds of resources to bear on this to get better evidence and an interpretive frame for making sense of it. What Brian labels the religion with no name. So, I mean, my biggest question behind all of this is, as a good Catholic boy, is the Eucharist. So there's lots of interesting details here that filter through. So there's a whole slew of sites I want to test there. There's a good number of questions that are very curious why you are insisting on remaining a psychedelic virgin. [texts-excerpt] penalty for cutting mangroves in floridaFREE EstimateFREE Estimate And I write, at the very end of the book, I hope that they'd be proud of this investigation. The same Rome that circumstantially shows up, and south of Rome, where Constantine would build his basilicas in Naples and Capua later on. In this hypothesis, both widely accepted and widely criticized,11 'American' was synonymous with 'North American'. They are guaranteed an afterlife. Wonderful, well, thank you. The most influential religious historian of the twentieth century, Huston Smith, once referred to it as the "best-kept secret" in history. So why the silence from the heresiologists on a psychedelic sacrament? I wish the church fathers were better botanists and would rail against the specific pharmacopeia. We look forward to hosting Chacruna's founder and executive director, Bia Labate, for a lecture on Monday, March 8. That event is already up on our website and open for registration. And what about the alleged democratization with which you credit the mysteries of Dionysus, or the role of women in that movement? I'm sure he knows this well, by this point. These are famous figures to those of us who study early Christianity. Others find it in different ways, but the common denominator seems to be one of these really well-curated near-death experiences. And there were gaps as well. They were relevant to me in going down this rabbit hole. It was a pilgrimage site. Brian C. Muraresku with Dr. Mark Plotkin: The Eleusinian Mysteries, Discovering the Divine, The Immortality Key, The Pagan Continuity Hypothesis, Psychedelics, and More | Tim Ferriss Show #646 That's, just absurd. These-- that-- Christians are spread out throughout the eastern Mediterranean, and there are many, many pockets of people practicing what we might call, let's just call it Christian mysticism of some kind. I mean, I asked lots of big questions in the book, and I fully acknowledge that. He dared to ask this very question before the hypothesis that this Eleusinian sacrament was indeed a psychedelic, and am I right that it was Ruck's hypothesis that set you down this path all those many years ago at Brown?
Plants of the Gods: Hallucinogens, Healing, Culture and - Podchaser Continuity Questions - 36 Questions About Continuity - QuestionDB The Tim Ferriss Show Transcripts: Brian C. Muraresku with Dr. Mark So let's talk about the future of religion, and specifically the future of Roman Catholicism. That they were what you call extreme beverages. CHARLES STANG: I have one more question about the pre-Christian story, and that has to do with that the other mystery religion you give such attention to. CHARLES STANG: Wonderful. 8 "The winds, the sea . Rupert Sheldrake, PhD, is a biologist and author best known for his hypothesis of morphic resonance. Like savory, wormwood, blue tansy, balm, senna, coriander, germander, mint, sage, and thyme.
Tim Ferriss Show Podcast Notes John H Elliott - Empires Of The Atlantic World.pdf In the first half, we'll cover topics ranging from the Eleusinian Mysteries, early Christianity, and the pagan continuity hypothesis to the work of philosopher and psychologist William James. That is about the future rather than the ancient history. Books about pagan continuity hypothesis? And does it line up with the promise from John's gospel that anyone who drinks this becomes instantly immortal?
The Psychedelic Gospels: The Secret History of Hallucinogens in This notion in John 15:1, the notion of the true vine, for example, only occurs in John. Maybe I'm afraid I'll take the psychedelic and I won't have what is reported in the literature from Hopkins and NYU. CHARLES STANG: OK, that is the big question. He's joining us from Uruguay, where he has wisely chosen to spend his pandemic isolation. Not just in Italy, but as kind of the headquarters for the Mediterranean.
All episodes of The Tim Ferriss Show - Chartable And Hofmann famously discovers-- or synthesizes LSD from ergot in 1938. I mean, in the absence of the actual data, that's my biggest question. Was there any similarity from that potion to what was drunk at Eleusis?
Ep #1 Show Notes | Brian Muraresku: Psychedelics, Civilization Newsweek calls him "the world's best human guinea pig," and The New York Times calls him "a cross between Jack Welch and a Buddhist monk." In this show, he deconstructs world-class . This event is entitled, Psychedelics, The Ancient Religion With No Name? Brendon Benz presents an alternative hypothesis to recent scholarship which has hypothesized that Israel consisted of geographical, economic . I have a deep interest in mysticism, and I've had mystical experiences, which I don't think are very relevant. The universality of frontiers, however, made the hypothesis readily extendable to other parts of the globe. Despite its popular appeal as a New York Times Bestseller, TIK fails to make a compelling case for its grand theory of the "pagan continuity hypothesis with a psychedelic twist" due to. I do the same thing in the afterword at the very end of the book, where it's lots of, here's what we know. I've no doubt that Brian has unearthed and collected a remarkable body of evidence, but evidence of what, exactly? There he is. To sum up the most exciting parts of the book: the bloody wine of Dionysius became the bloody wine of Jesus - the pagan continuity hypothesis - the link between the Ancient Greeks of the final centuries BC and the paleo-Christians of the early centuries AD - in short, the default psychedelic of universal world history - the cult of . #646: Brian C. Muraresku with Dr. Mark Plotkin The Eleusinian Mysteries, Discovering the Divine, The Immortality Key, The Pagan Continuity Hypothesis, Lessons from Scholar Karen Armstrong, and Much More Brought to you by GiveWell.org charity research and effective giving and 5-Bullet Friday, my very own email newsletter. That was the question for me. BRIAN MURARESKU:: It's a simple formula, Charlie. 1,672. The altar had been sitting in a museum in Israel since the 1960s and just hadn't been tested. Just from reading Dioscorides and reading all the different texts, the past 12 years have absolutely transformed the way I think about wine. Administration and supervision endeavors and with strong knowledge in: Online teaching and learning methods, Methods for Teaching Mathematics and Technology Integration for K-12 and College .
#283: Managing Procrastination, Predicting the Future, and - Scribd What was discovered, as far as I can tell, from your treatment of it, is essentially an ancient pharmacy in this house. So I have my concerns about what's about to happen in Oregon and the regulation of psilocybin for therapeutic purposes. So I got a copy of it from the Library of Congress, started reading through, and there, in fact, I was reading about this incredible discovery from the '90s. And inside that beer was all kinds of vegetable matter, like wheat, oats, and sedge and lily and flax and various legumes.
The Tim Ferriss Show - Transcripts And when you speak in that way, what I hear you saying is there is something going on. Then what was the Gospel of John, how did it interpret the Eucharist and market it, and so on. So the mysteries of Dionysus are a bit more of a free-for-all than the mysteries of Eleusis. You mentioned, too, early churchmen, experts in heresies by the name of Irenaeus of Lyons and Hippolytus of Rome. It's interesting that Saint Ignatius of Antioch, in the beginning of the second century AD, refers to the wine of the Eucharist as the [SPEAKING GREEK], the drug of immortality. They minimized or completely removed the Jewish debates found in the New Testament, and they took on a style that was more palatable to the wider pagan world. CHARLES STANG: All right. And that kind of invisible religion with no name, although brutally suppressed, managed to survive in Europe for many centuries and could potentially be revived today. It's funny to see that some of the first basilicas outside Rome are popping up here, and in and around Pompeii.